We were conditioned to act like defeated Veterans. You late 30 something veterans remember the Vietnam movies shoved down our throats in 80 and 90s? Look at the way these characters in those movies carried themselves.
This is how we acted when we came home from Iraq, in fact, we were acting that way before we even arrived in Iraq, and why we were there.
Remember, the day of the invasion,
I remember being in the barracks watching TV, we were pissed because we were still training to go. We would not leave until 04-November-2003.
However, that night they played this Wonder Years episode where "Roach" you remember that character? The episode where Roach comes back from Vietnam and at the end he is found naked and says " These clothes don't seem to fit anymore." All bitch like.
This is literally what came on after Bush did his speech, remember that guys?OIF Vets, who did not make the invasion, which did not matter the real war started afterwards, but that is an argument for another time. Unless you are 3rd ID, Marine Force Recon(sorry if I got that wrong.) Or 101st airborne. The invasion was real for you, however, for 88m or 3500 series, the war for us started at the end of 2003 and from that point on until 2008.
But back to the subject at hand.
This was no on accident, look at the movie Platoon, Full Metal Jacket even, Joker a great character, however not the best Marine, he questions everything.
Even that movie the "Boys of Company C."
SHIT GENERATION KILL IS ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE VIETNAM ROLE. WATCH IT SEE FOR YOURSELVES.
The conditioning was so bad, that even society was defeated before we started, it is like we have this fucking Vietnam syndrome fantasy that is ingrained in our mind. We all wanted the dope smoking, civilian killing, napalm dropping, prostitute fucking, coming home sad, disillusioned and defeated war that our grandfathers had.
Not the victorious, big balled victory our great grandfathers had in WW2.
The conditioning continues to happen, Jim Bruher makes fun of America, Trump constantly says we're doing so bad in Afghanistan even though we have been there 16 years and have lost 2300, which is way less than the Russian lost after being there for 10 years. We're doing good there stop playing the Vietnam role with that war.
"Always Sunny in Philadelphia" and "You're The Worst," portrays veterans over and over again as weak, shit You're the Worst makes that veteran character look like such a bitch. The thick blonde character on that show constantly interrupts the vet character making the vet look really weak. Always Sunny the vet on that show cries constantly very weak.
SNL portrays vets as weak, MTV, The UNIT(even though show is no longer running), Orange is the New Black, The Sandbox, etc.
VET TV, Big Let Down, that episode with Turner Fair, he acts like such a broken coward.
He runs away from the female Muslim women, COME ON GUYS REALLY?
Stop this shit, also in the roast you guys did said he is a civilian, shit I thought I met this dude before at a couple activist events in Oakland and Denver, maybe I was wrong, Either way, dude that looked at him claimed to be a vet.
So if he is a vet that is going through the phase of " I hate myself for being a vet." Then he is a part of the problem, if he is a civilian for real, and I have never met him, just thought I did, he should not be playing a broken vet.
All I am saying is we need to change our mentality and image so future vets, Soldier and Marines will come out swinging and embrace what they may have to do.
Take care, I really hope I reach a couple of you.